This video discusses the stunning similarities found between the 110 Enoch verses found in the Book of Moses and the Enoch material discovered and published after Joseph Smith’s death. Of particular note, and of greatest similarity, are the stunning ties related to the material found in the Dead Sea Scrolls – Cave 4, discovered in 1948! Hugh Nibley reported his discussion with Matthew Black, who translated the Enoch portion of the Dead Sea Scrolls (known as the ‘Book of Giants’), who after being stunned with what Joseph Smith had done said ‘someday we will know what source Joseph Smith used’ (or in other words there has to be an explanation for this!)
So I’m really excited to do this Evidences video. It’s on the book of Enoch, which is one of the most powerful evidences of the prophet Joseph Smith. The book of Enoch has been recently discovered. It was prized among Christians during Jesus’ day and even some of the early church fathers, but then it was essentially banned and lost over many centuries. We do have excerpts from the book of Enoch in the book of Moses, in Moses chapter six and seven specifically. We’ll talk a lot about that here in a minute, but there’s some great writings here, Hugh Nibley did on Enoch The Prophet. Jeffrey Bradshaw and David Larson, we’ve got this massive book here on Enoch and some others obviously, but, The Interpreter Foundation, they published several pieces that will go deep into comparing Joseph’s writings about Enoch with these recent discoveries.
So this is really, really exciting to go through that now. As far as the actual book of Enoch, in fact, let me tell you. So you can buy these now today. If you get them, they’ll typically come, for example, you’ll get … there’s three different Enochs, one Enoch, two Enoch, three Enoch, when they were basically found. Their writings differ a bit. And then there’s also two different versions of what’s called the Book of Giants. Now giants meaning, another way to say that is warriors. So, if you look at this one’s maybe easier to see, The Ethiopic Book of Enoch. This was the first one to be found. This was found in 1777 by an explorer that was over in Africa and brought copies to Europe.
The first translation of that was done by Richard Lawrence in 1821. This is the longest and least like Joseph’s, but there’s no evidence that Joseph had a copy or any access to this. We’ll talk about that a bit, but we’re going to actually in this video, eliminate it as an option since that’s what all the critics, the only thing they can focus on is, “Well, he must’ve had something”, because of the ties you’re going to hear about in a minute. So, here’s second Enoch. It’s called the Slavonic Secrets of Enoch. This was discovered in the late 1800’s. And then the Hebrew Book of Enoch, that’s three Enoch. Also same kind of timeframe, well after Joseph Smith. And then The Book of Giants. That’s the ace. This is unbelievable. There was two different ones of The Book of Giants.
There’s the Manichaean version, which was found in western China in 1943, but the big one is the Aramaic version, this was the Dead Sea Scrolls. So this was actually found in Qumran, the Dead Sea Scrolls in cave four. Unbelievable what it did, it kind of shook things up dramatically on the book of Enoch. There were different themes in there that were Christian in nature that made people think that those influenced the book of Enoch. What they actually found from the discovery at Qumran was it dated at 500 years earlier back to maybe 200, 300 B.C. even. And what it ended up doing was even saying, turning things around saying, actually it affected the New Testament. It was the other way around. In fact, listen to this little quote, “It is hard to avoid the evidence that Jesus not only studied the book, but also respected it highly enough to allude to its doctrine and content.”
“Enoch is replete with mentions of the coming kingdom and other holy themes. It was not only Jesus who used phrases or ideas from Enoch. There are over a hundred comments in the New Testament which find precedence in the book of Enoch.” And actually they show where some of these things that Jesus said came out of the book of Enoch that we have now today. We can see that. We didn’t know that before. And the book of Enoch actually is mentioned in Jude. So that was a reference there, but that was the only thing from before. Now we see there’s so much more to it. Okay. Now Joseph’s writings, so he did this as part of the inspired revision to the Bible when he was doing that. This was in the December of 1830 when he was doing this work.
And this was a expansionary aspect of the Bible in this Enoch spot. There’s only five verses on Enoch in the Bible. And then look at what we have in the Pearl of Great Price in the book of Moses. Let me show you some stats on this. So Elder Maxwell, he said here, “Joseph Smith’s Enoch has 18 times as many column inches about Enoch than we have in the few verses on him in the Bible. Those scriptures not only contain greater quantity than the Bible, but also contain abundant new material about Enoch on which the Bible is silent.” And then Richard Bushman computes a roughly similar ratio. He says that, “it’s summed up in 5 verses. In Joseph Smith’s revision, Enoch’s story extends to 110 verses.” So if you measure it by verses, and Joseph and others who refer to this is not the book of Enoch, but excerpts from the book of Enoch there.
Okay. How remarkable was Joseph Smith’s Enoch? So, I don’t know if you’ve read this. This has become famous in Latter-day Saint land, but I just love it. It’s one of my favorite books on my bookshelf. The God Who Weeps by Terryl and Fiona Givens, How Mormonism Makes Sense of Life. But, this was taken from Enoch. So if you look here, “Both in the expansive nature of its content and the eloquence of its expression, Terryl and Fiona Givens consider the LDS account of Enoch as perhaps the most remarkable religious document published in the 19th century.” And one little snippet, I just love this, where Enoch’s asking, “how is it thou canst weep?” It’s one of my favorite sections in all scripture. The Givens say “The answer, it turns out, is that God is not exempt from emotional pain.”
“Exempt? On the contrary, God’s pain is as infinite as His love. He weeps because he feels compassion. It’s not their wickedness, but their misery, not their disobedience, but their suffering that elicits the God of Heaven’s tears.” It’s just absolutely beautiful and radical theology if you think about it compared to Christianity. The creeds say God has no body parts or passions, right? So talk about a different view the Latter-day Saints have because of Enoch particularly. Very powerful. Okay. Now this is super exciting. Take a look at this screen. So this is from Bradshaw and Dahle. They just put this on the Interpreter at the end of 2019. Huge news here. They said, “Additional work is underway to provide a systematic and detailed analysis of ancient literary affinities in Moses 6-7, including an effort sponsored by Book of Mormon Central in collaboration with The Interpreter Foundation.”
When that comes out, I’ll make sure I link it to this video, once it comes out. But boy, that’s one of those we want to put in cement cause that’ll be powerful if they go deep and put something together cause I think it’s kind of needed to have it maybe in a very good organized fashion out there that’s user friendly. Okay. Could Joseph have borrowed from first Enoch? Now let me just mention here, first Enoch is the least like Joseph’s passages in the book of Moses. The one that’s the most like it big time is from The Dead Sea Scrolls from Qumran, and it’s three pages long versus 105 chapters. So please keep this in mind. It’s funny, the critics almost, it’s like miss it, and do your own test. If you read it, you’ll see there’s very little correlation with one Enoch.
But it’s unbelievable what you’re about to hear when you look at the Book of Giants that was in The Dead Sea Scrolls. So, but I love what, what Bradshaw said here in this just released piece here about an updated thing about aways asking this question. Critics pointing it out. He says, “Joseph Smith was well aware that the biblical book of Jude explicitly quotes 1 Enoch. The most obvious thing he could have done to bolster his case for the authenticity of the book of Moses if he were a conscious deceiver, would have been to include the relevant verses from Jude within his revelations on Enoch. But this the prophet did not do. The question also requires that we assess the likelihood that Joseph Smith knew about the 1821 publication of 1 Enoch [that was translated by Richard Lawrence]. Salvatore Cirillo’s master thesis at Durham University cites Michael Quinn, ‘The evidence of the prophet’s access to this translation of 1 Enoch has moved beyond probability to fact.’ He sees no other explanation for the substantial similarities that he finds between the book of Moses in the pseudopigraphal Enoch literature. However, Cirillo is at odds with other scholars. For example, as a result of his study, Latter-day Saint historian Richard Bushman concluded, ‘It is scarcely conceivable that Joseph Smith even knew of Lawrence’s Enoch translation.'” By the way, when they came out, nobody cared. Hugh Nibley talks a lot about this. People were yawning. It was just like when it first came out, remember it had been banned for a long time and if you’re reading it one evening, it’s also got a lot of crazy stuff in it. It’s kind of a little much for people I think sometimes.
And so it was, it was not received well there in the beginning. So, it’s changed a lot now since The Dead Sea Scrolls thing. But okay. “Because Joseph Smith’s access to the 1821 printing is unlikely, some scholars have argued that he may have seen a purported 1828 American edition of the work. However, Yakov Ben Tov [online pseudonym] has shown that the arguments of Michael Quinn and Salvatore Cirillo concerning this 1828 American printing are flawed in at least two major respects: One, Cirillo badly misquotes Quinn as stating that the supposed 1828 printing happened in America. Not only does Quinn not say that, the National Union Catalog says explicitly that it was Oxford. Number two, it is unlikely that there was an 1828 publication of Lawrence’s translation of the book of Enoch at all. ‘The editor must have mistakenly read 1838 as 1828 when the entries were made for publication.'”
“Moreover, even if 1 Enoch had been available to the prophet, a study by Latter-day Saint historian Jed Woodworth concludes that the principal themes of Lawrence’s 105 translated chapters do not resemble Joseph Smith’s Enoch in any obvious way.” I can tell you that’s definitely the case if you read through it. Alright, “In summary, it would have been virtually impossible for Joseph Smith in 1830 to have been aware of the most important resemblances to ancient literature in his Enoch revelations. Other than the limited and typically loose parallels found in 1 Enoch, (which, as discussed previously, was unlikely to have been available to Joseph Smith), the texts that would have been required for a modern author to derive significant parts of Moses 6-7 had neither been discovered by Western scholars nor translated in English. Even if relevant Masonic traditions had been available to Joseph Smith by 1830, they would not have provided the prophet with the suite of specific and sometimes peculiar details [that you’re going to hear in second], that are shared by Moses 6-7 and pseudepigrapha like 2 Enoch, 3 Enoch, and the Book of Giants.”
Okay, so like I said, I’m going to exclude everything. So let’s get into it. Now 1 Enoch is off the table. Let’s just take it off. So now you can guarantee nothing existed until way after Joseph’s death, everything that you’re about to hear. Okay, let’s start out with Enoch referred to as a lad. Remember Moses 6:31 Enoch is referred to as a lad here, “I am but a lad.” “LDS readers have often puzzled over Enoch’s self description as a lad though he was 65 at the time. This is the only instance of the term ‘lad’ in the teachings and revelations of Joseph Smith. The use of this term by Joseph Smith is of special interest considering the prominence of ‘lad’ as a title for Enoch in 2 Enoch and 3 Enoch.” Look at this.
Gary Anderson, a theology professor of the Hebrew Bible at Notre Dame.writes this about the reference to Lad in 2 Enoch: “The acclamation of Enoch as ‘lad’ (or the equivalent term ‘youth’ in other translations) is curious, It certainly recalls the question that began the story, why are you called ‘lad’ by those in the heights of heaven? It is worth noting that of all the names given to Enoch, the title ‘lad’ is singled out as being particularly apt and fitting by the heavenly host.” He says, “In any event, the reason our text supplies for this title is deceptively simple and straight forward: ‘And because I was the youngest among them and a lad amongst them with respect to days, months, and years, therefore they called me lad.'” So even at age 65, I guess he was the youngest. So that’s why he was called lad. So anyway, but what a fascinating thing. That correlation there lad to lad.
And the only time in any of Joseph’s writings, revelations, or teachings.Okay, rivers turned out of their course. This is stunning. Look at Moses 6:34, “the rivers shall turn from their course”. Enoch’s going to have the power to do that. And then it shows in 7:13 that it happened. They were turned out of their course. Now look at this. In the book of Enoch, “Take thy way to the source of the water. Turn it from its course. At this command, Turiel (the angel speaking to Enoch) indeed turned the pure water from its course. We find no account of a river’s course turned by anyone anywhere in the Bible.” And that is stunning in my opinion, just awesome. Okay, now let’s get into the next batch of slides. They’re all coming from The Dead Sea Scrolls, from this discovery in Qumran in 1948.
So everything you hear right now, I want you to think 1948 and 1830. Joseph’s here. December, 1830, he’s putting together the inspired revision of the Bible and he comes up with The Pearl of Great Price, book of Moses 6 and 7 with all these 110 verses or whatever of Enoch. And now we have this, and it’s three pages. You can read it. It’s short, three pages cause it’s fragments and they put it together. We get these phenomenal things out of it. Okay, so wild man. So in Moses 6:38, Enoch is referred to as a wild man hath come among us and they’re actually being sarcastic in the way they’re saying that. So, “Genesis 16:12 is the only other place we see wild man used as part of Jacob’s prophecy about the fate of Ishmael.” So the Book of Giants, remember that’s in The Dead Sea Scrolls, which was considered part of 1 Enoch, but not in the 1 Enoch we have. So it’s like this part there that was missing.
“The Book of Giants, where the wicked leader of the gibborim, [which they refer to the giant warriors] Ohya, boasts that he is called ‘the wild man.’ Just as in the book of Moses, the same term is used (wild man), sarcastically, to describe Enoch.” Okay. Now this is a stunner. And in fact, I’m going to tell you about an interaction that Hugh Nibley had with the translator of The Dead Sea Scrolls Book of Giants. It’s quite stunning. In fact, he says, “someday we’re going to find out how Joseph did this”, cause he’s stunned. So this guy shows up on the scene out of nowhere, appears Mahija in Moses 6:40.
You read about this Mahija in Moses 7:2. Another derivation, Mahujah. “There are interesting similarities, not only in the name, but also in the role of this character in Joseph Smith’s book of Moses and the role of the character named Mahujah in the Book of giants.” Very fascinating. Same name. Let’s look at the role. His role, this is Hugh Nibley, he says, “The only thing that Mahijah in the book of Moses is remarkable for is his putting of bold, direct questions to Enoch, thus giving the patriarch an opening for calling upon the people to repent, referring them to the book of remembrance and telling them of the plan of salvation. This is exactly the role, and the only role, that the Aramaic Mahujah plays in the story. What the ‘Ma’ in Mahijah most strongly suggests is certainly the all-but-universal ancient interrogative, ‘ma’ (‘who’? or ‘what’?), so that the names Mahujah and Mahijah both sound to the student of Semitics like questions.”
The name is found in none of the other Enoch texts …”, none of them, ” …and neither is the story. It is peculiar to the version Joseph Smith gave us and the oldest known Enoch manuscripts.” Okay. Now this is interesting, the story of Matthew Black, the translator of The Dead Sea Scrolls and listen to this. This is Bradshaw and Dahle and they just put this here in The Interpreter, and I’ll link these articles. “The only attempt of which we are aware to explain how a manuscript discovered in 1948 could have influenced a work of scripture translated in 1830 comes from remembrances by two individuals about the well known Aramaic scholar, Matthew Black, who collaborated with Milik in the first translation of the fragments of the Book of Giants into English in 1976. Black was approached by a doctoral candidate, Thomasson, after a guest lecture at Cornell. “
He says, “I asked Professor Black if he was familiar with Joseph Smith’s Enoch text. He said he was not but was interested. He first asked if it was identical or similar to 1 Enoch. I told him it was not and then proceeded to recite some of the correlations Dr. Nibley had shown with Milik and Black’s own and others’ Qumran and Ethiopic Enoch materials. He became quiet. When it got to Mahujah, he raised his hand in a ‘please pause’ gesture and was silent. Finally, he acknowledged that the place-name Mahujah could not have come from 1 Enoch. He then formulated a hypothesis, consistent with his lecture, that a member of one of the esoteric groups he had described previously (clandestine groups who had maintained, sub rosa, religious tradition based on the writings of Enoch that predated Genesis) must have survived into the 19th century, and hearing of Joseph Smith, must have brought the groups Enoch’s texts to New York from Italy for the prophet to translate and publish.”
“At the end of our conversation, he expressed an interest in seeing more of Hugh’s work.” So he actually came out and visited Hugh Nibley. “Hugh Nibley records this interaction with Matthew Black during the latter’s 1977 visit to BYU. The account included a conversation with Black that apparently occurred near the end of the visit. Nibley asked Black if he had an explanation for the appearance of the name Mahujah in the book of Moses, and reported his answer as follows. ‘Well, someday we will find out the source that Joseph Smith used.'” And I say, yes, we will. I love that. So, okay. Enoch comes out from a holy place. So Moses 6:41, “I came out … a land of righteousness.” And if you look here, ” …the gibborim in the Book of Giants says that his opponents reside in the heavens and live with the holy ones, and in the heavens are seated, and among the holy places they dwell.”
Okay. Now Enoch and the book of remembrance. Moses 6:46 in which the words of God and the actions of the people were recorded. Book of Giants said, “a book in the form of a two stone tablets is given by Enoch to Mahujah to stand as a witness of their fallen state and betrayal of their ancient covenants.” Enoch proclaims that the children are conceived in sin. So, “Among the declarations Joseph Smith’s Enoch makes to his hearers from the book of remembrance is that their children are conceived in sin, Moses 6:55. This has nothing to do with the concept of original sin, but rather is the result of their moral transgressions. As Nibley expresses it: ‘The wicked people of Enoch’s day did indeed conceive their children in sin since they were illegitimate offspring of a totally amoral society.'”
Look at the Book of giants, “Know that … not your deeds and those are your wives … they and their sons and the wives of their sons for your prostitution in the land.” All those dots mean cause of the fragments. ” … your activity and that of your wives and of your children … through your fornication.” You can see there’s definitely a bunch of stuff, immorality that’s happening there. So, okay, now also ending on a note of hope. This is different than 1 Enoch, which is actually focused on maximum punishment and this kind of approach. This is more of maximum mercy. The Lord keeps sending chances for repentance, in a sense. Moses 6:52, “If thou will turn unto [God], and hearken unto my voice, and believe, and repent.” Book of Giants, “unfasten your chains of sin and pray.” Oh, look at this one. The roar of wild beasts.
This is interesting. Okay. “Of special note is a puzzling phrase in Martinez’s translation of the Book of Giant, that immediately follows the description of the battle: ‘the roar of the wild beast has come.’ The book of Moses account has a similar phrase following the battle description, recording that ‘the roar of the lions was heard out of the wilderness.'” That’s Moses 7:13. Very interesting. The exact same word “roar”. Okay. A prison prediction. So, “I will shut them up; a prison have I prepared for them.” That’s in Moses 7:38. The Book of Giants, “he imprisoned us and has power over us.” Okay. Summary note on the parallels. So think about all the stuff we just talked about. Bradshaw and Larsen say, “Note that the parallels with the Book of the Giants we have cited are not drawn at will from a large corpus of Enoch manuscripts, but rather are concentrated in a scant three pages of Qumran fragments.”
“These resemblances range from general themes in the story line (secret works, murders, visions, earthly and heavenly books of remembrance that evoke fear and trembling, moral corruption, hope held out for repentance, and the eventual defeat of Enoch’s adversaries in battle ending with their utter destruction and imprisonment) to specific occurrences of rare expressions in corresponding contex (the reference to the ‘wild man’, the name and parallel role of Mahijah/Mahujah, and the ‘roar of the wild beasts’). It would be thought remarkable if any 19th-century document were to exhibit a similar density of close resemblances with this small collection of ancient fragments, but to find such similarities in appropriate contexts relating in each case to the story of Enoch is astonishing.” I love that. So now we’re going to talk about Enoch in the temple. Now we’re outside of The Dead Sea Scrolls now into the other ones again. So in 3 Enoch, “Enoch is the great initiate who becomes the great initiator. The Hebrew book of Enoch [that’s 3 Enoch] bore the title of Hekhalot, referring to the various chambers or stages of initiation in the temple.”
Now look at this. I love this quote from Brigham Young. “I will not say but what Enoch had temples and officiated therein, but we have no account of it.” And then love Nibley. He says, “Today we do have such accounts.” It’s classic. Okay. The throne of Enoch. Moses 7:59, “thou has given unto me a right to thy throne.” Now look at 3 Enoch, “He made for me a throne like the throne of glory and sat me down upon it.” Dead hit. By the way, when I say 1 Enoch, 2 Enoch, 3 Enoch, that’s actually how they refer to it instead of first Enoch, third Enoch. Just be aware, that’s kind of how they are noted as. Okay. Now this is fascinating. This just came out the end of 2019 in this Interpreter article Bradshaw, there’s a bunch of newly available Enoch sources, and they put together about a dozen ones.
I’ll just briefly show you what they are. Look at this, “In 2018, John C. Reeves and Annette Yoshiko Reed published the first volume of their book series entitled Enoch from Antiquity to the Middle Ages. This volume makes available in English many little-known texts about Enoch from Jewish, Christian, and Islamic sources. The following section summarizes preliminary research comparing passages in Moses 6-7 to newly available sources in the volume by Reeves and Reed, including the notable mention of a character that seems to corroborate the prominent role of Mahawai [that’s the English of Mahujah] in the Aramaic Book of Giants and of Mahujah/Mahijah in Moses 6-7. Like the ancient Enoch sources we have discussed earlier, none of these newly available sources would have been accessible when Joseph Smith translated the book of Moses. Most of the Enoch manuscripts we highlight below are relatively late and in some instances may have been preserved largely through oral rather than written traditions.”
“That being the case, one might legitimately question whether such texts could preserve early Enoch traditions with any degree of accuracy. Therefore, before discussing these new findings, we summarize the reasons why Enoch sources of relatively late provenance might still contain unique information that stretches back deeper into antiquity.” And they actually put a lot of good information on that in the paper. So again, I’ll link to that. Okay. So, I’m going to go through these really quickly and briefly. There’s about a dozen of them, but I’ll just keep them short. So the way I set these up is next to each other so you can seem quickly. So, first here, Adam to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth. Then on the right, Adam, God showed him each generation, and Enoch learned to see divine visions in his normal bodily state. Enoch is reported to have beheld things which were not visible to the natural eye.
Okay. The next one, Satan came among them. On the right, devil appeared to the people in the form of a man. Okay. Satan says, “I am also a son of God.” On the right, Satan makes a similar claim. “I am a servant from the servants of God. I worship him like you.” Left, the bottom there, Moses 1:12, “Moses, son of man, worship me.” This a Satan saying this. And then look on the right. “Satan presented himself as God and called for the worship of Enoch’s sons.” That same thing. Okay. Jared taught Enoch in all the ways of God. On the right, Jared taught Enoch the knowledge which he had received and handed over to him the book of secrets. Okay.
“All the people hate me for I am slow speech; wherefore am I thy servant?” Enoch was “soft spoken and gentle in his manner of speaking. Other accounts portray Enoch as having been deliberate in his speech and often silent.” Okay on the left, “They taste the bitter that they may know to prize the good.” The right, “Enoch’s request to taste death for a moment during the day, explaining that if he could experience the pain of death and its sorrow, he would be more prepared and more attentive in his worship.” Okay. Enoch succeeded in making his people of one heart and one mind. And the right, Enoch united the nations under the worship of God. Enoch built a city that was called the city of holiness, even Zion. On the right, several ancient texts celebrate Enoch as a builder of temples and cities. On the left, the seed of Cain had not place among them. On the right, warn them not to associate with the descendants of Cain.
This next one is pretty crazy. “Satan had a great chain and he looked up and laughed.” So chain and laughter. “And Enoch had bitterness of soul and refuse to be comforted.” Look on the right, Enoch was given a tour of hell. “A Satan figure saw Enoch. It is reported that his face broke into a grin. Moreover, chains were among the horrors of hell that Enoch witnessed … he could not sleep or enjoy the taste of food out of the fear of the punishment of God most high which his own eyes had witnessed.” Okay. He refused to be comforted until he’s persuaded by the Lord’s oath to him. Enoch refuses to come out of Paradise until he is persuaded by the Lord’s oath to him. Almost the exact same. Okay. Who so climbeth up by me shall never fall.
On the right, ” … the gatekeeper of Paradise told Enoch that a branch of the Tuba tree would hang down toward him and that he should cling to it and it will bring him into paradise.” And then, “Lehi’s dream of the Tree of Life has similar imagery.” On the right, “Some of the imagery in this story, particularly of the need to climb up a branch to enter into paradise, can be meaningfully compared to the Narrative of Zosimus and Lehi’s dream of the Tree of Life.” Okay. So it’s pretty fun. There will be new ones to add. Hopefully those will be the new ones from the Interpreter and Book of Mormon Central putting together. It’s going to be great. So, hope you realize how powerful this is as a witness of the prophet Joseph Smith. And so it’s a great Evidences video. Hope you enjoyed and subscribe for more.
Interpreter articles referenced in the video:
YouTube video of Hugh Nibley discussing Book of Enoch evidences: https://interpreterfoundation.org/kno…
Books: Hugh Nibley, Enoch the Prophet, The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley: Volume 2
Jeffrey Bradshaw & David Larsen, In God’s Image and Likeness Volume 2: Enoch, Noah & The Tower of Babel
Terryl & Fiona Givens, The God Who Weeps
Many translations are available of 1 Enoch, 2 Enoch, 3 Enoch and the Book of Giants (lost part of 1 Enoch found with the Dead Sea Scrolls). The two I held up near the start of the video – one was from Joseph Lumkin and the other from the trio of Paul Schnieders, Robert Charles & WB Henning.
Between the two, I would recommend the version from Lumpkin because he has an amazing section before getting into the text showing the impact of the Book of Enoch on the New Testament. He even shows the very specific quotes from Jesus himself that were quotes of the Book of Enoch! The amazing thing is it was always assumed after discoveries and dating of 1 Enoch, 2 Enoch & 3 Enoch, that the Book of Enoch came after Christ because of some of the material, but the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls flipped everything around – this showed the dating of Enoch material was over 500 years earlier than previously thought, so it was actually the New Testament quoting the Book of Enoch (including Jesus), not the other way around!!
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David Chidester saysFebruary 7, 2021 at 11:21 pm
I have a question that I hope can be answered despite the fact that the great Hugh Nibley has passed.
Is there any way to connect Enoch with Hermes Trismegistus or Thoth. I have heard allusions to that but cannot find anything solid.
Thanks in advance
Jeff Roundy saysMarch 29, 2021 at 11:56 pm
I have not researched that – there has been a lot covered on Enoch over the last year in Pearl of Great Price Central and the Interpreter Foundation. You could check both of those sources to see if they have covered this at all.
Darla saysFebruary 15, 2021 at 6:27 am
Thanks. Enjoy your content. The Book of Enoch is suddenly a hot topic on social media so I was happy to share your research. Joseph Smith’s translation is very faith affirming.
Jeff Roundy saysMarch 29, 2021 at 11:42 pm